Sex vs a Buyin Debate

Would You Trade Your Poker Buyin For Sex?

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Earlier last week in the twoplustwo HUSNG Regs Thread, the question was posed, would you leave your game to have sex? The fact that I took such a hard stance on such a vague theoretical question is a failure in of itself, but I'll try to explain my position below. For the record, I was firmly in favor of leaving a buyin at your regular stakes on the table to go have sex, assuming you had to choose one or the other.

The original question by nichlemn was a little different, and more realistic:

What do you do about situations where you're grinding HUSNGs and someone requests something of you with reasonable urgency (but it's not really super important)? If you fulfill their request you get blinded out a lot, if you tell them to wait you seem like a douchebag. Telling them you'd lose money otherwise doesn't seem to help things. Chopping can sometimes alleviate this (but IIRC Stars doesn't enforce chops?)

I think this answer is that it is more easily manageable if you set a realistic playing schedule, avoid constantly being around people that bother you and need things at a whim (likely impossible if you live with certain family or have a child or chose a poor life partner) and if you don't ignore everything in your life besides poker. So the answer specifically to his question is "it depends" but you really have a choice on whether or not to put yourself in that type of situation long term. I used to have some of those issues, but I haven't in the last few years (replace "playing a game" with "posting a video" or "talking to a video maker about a new video" or something else that I would prefer to finish in one sitting, rather than come back to, and the answer stays the same.). This was almost entirely a result of adding (or in my case creating) foresight into my life.

But that's not really the point of this blog post, nor the question that caused such debate. The discussion quickly morphed into sex, with an unsurprising post from Bunzablood:

What about booty calls? Say a girl is really horny and wants you to plow her, she calls, says 'I want it and I want it NOW', you are busy grinding like a robot. She says, 'if you say NO I will go to another guy'. What to do then? Huh?

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Now, Tcarnage kind of killed this very scenario, with a quick "tell her you're leaving then finish your match." Given everyone plays hypers now, and even in a turbo scenario, this is about as good of a real answer you can give and should've been all that was posted.

But silly me, had to reinforce the value of sex, for whatever reason, and I responded that trading a buyin for sex would be a pretty easy/standard trade. In hindsight, the scenario was not well framed (if Tcarnage's response doesn't work, we need to change the question a bit), and I was really changing the discussion even further.

I reiterated, talking about trading a regular single buyin for sex. Others made some obvious counters, "you don't have sex often" and many seemed stuck on the 2 minute thing, getting quite aggressive with the theoretical girl "if she can't wait, she's not worth your time" type responses.

But my real point, one that I failed to get across, is that good sex is quite a value to have. Ironically, to the posters that mentioned not having sex being an attribute of my opinion, I'd of actually quickly sided with the money at age 18, when I had less sex, and less good sex going on in my life. In fact, it only makes sense that if you have more sex and better sex that you would value sex more highly than somebody that is used to going long periods without sex, and with lower quality sex when they have it.

< or > 1 Poker Buyin?

So lets try this one last time: You register into a game you can't leave anytime soon (say deep stack, no blind increase, also known as the world's slowest method of suicide). You have the option of leaving the single game, single buyin of your normal levels, to have some good sex. If you're like 18, 19 or 20, or just lesser experienced, you can substitute a minor celebrity for "good sex" and you should get to the same caliber of excitement or expected value for this decision. There are also no consequences for saying yes or no, besides not having sex and playing your game, or having sex and not playing your game (nothing like "you lose all chance to ever have sex again" or "the girl gets mad at you"). Which do you choose?

Under that scenario, I would choose the sex. That's all I was really getting at, but of course I failed to execute properly and ended up taking a hard line to a very vague question, doing so in such a way that I should not have expected anything but the type of responses I received (perhaps most predictably, Sol Reader gave the ole "if the girl's emotional state is such that she can't wait x minutes…" response. Love that relevancy Sol, you failed like I did so I'm calling you out too!).

And I guess, in the end, the best answer to the first question, the one answer that was superior to Tcarnage's answer, would have to be "both." Yes, sex while playing poker. Raise your hand if you… well nevermind.

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